William Craig Bell1

M, #29890, b. 1885, d. 6 Sep 1930
Father*John James Bell1 b. 5 Dec 1848, d. 29 Oct 1925
Mother*Annie Howard1 b. 1856, d. 29 Jul 1917
Birth*1885 Gembrook, VIC, Australia, #B2957/1885 (par John BELL & Annie HOWARD) - as William Craig BELL.1 
Marriage*1910 Spouse: Edith Mary Simmons. VIC, Australia, #M3065/1910, Wm Craig BELL & Edith Mary SIMMONS.2
 
Land-Gembrook*28 Nov 1918 GEM--127A part 12/LP6251. Transfer from Adolphe Frederick Seelenmeyer to William Craig Bell. Tx 872125 - C/T 4168-589 (sold 17 Mar 1922.)3 
Death*6 Sep 1930 Cockatoo, VIC, Australia, #D9371/1930 (Age 44) (par John James BELL & Annie HOWARD) - as William Craig BELL.4 
Death-Notice*8 Sep 1930 BELL. — On the 6th September, at the residence of his sister (Mrs. Ford, Cockatoo), William Craig, fourth son of the late John James and Annie Howard Bell, of Cockatoo; loving brother of John, James, George, Jean, Hughie (deceased), Annie, Andrew, Jessie, Maggie and Douglas, loved father of Hazel and Leonard, aged 45.
Peace.5 

Grave

  • EMC-I-471, Emerald Cemetery, Macclesfield, VIC, Australia6

Citations

  1. [S26] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Births) (online) "#B2957/1885 (par John BELL & Annie HOWARD) - as William Craig BELL, Birth registered at Gemb, Australia."
  2. [S27] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Marriages) (online) "#M3065/1910, Wm Craig BELL & Edith Mary SIMMONS."
  3. [S185] Property Titles ; PROV (Public Record Office Victoria), C/T 3719-783 - William Craig Bell of Cockatoo Labourer - C/T 4168-589.
  4. [S28] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Deaths) (online) "#D9371/1930 (Age 44) (par John James BELL & Annie HOWARD) - as William Craig BELL, Death registered at Emerald, Australia."
  5. [S16] Newspaper - The Age (Melbourne, Vic.), Mon 8 Sep 1930, p1
    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/202237762
  6. [S38] Index of burials in the cemetery of Emerald Cemetery, EMC-I-471
    Hugh Howard Bell, Date of Death: 22 Sep 1915, Service Date: 24 Sep 1915, Age: 29 Years
    William Craig Bell, Service Date: 8 Sep 1930, Age: 44 Years    ,.
Last Edited15 Sep 2024

Andrew Bell1

M, #29892, b. 1890, d. 15 Jun 1932
Father*John James Bell1 b. 5 Dec 1848, d. 29 Oct 1925
Mother*Annie Howard1 b. 1856, d. 29 Jul 1917
Probate (Will)* 249/548. Andrew Bell, Residence: Cockatoo, Occupation: Sawmiller, Date Of Death: 15 Jun 1932, Date Of Grant: 21 Jul 1932
Real Estate: Land 2 1/2 acres Lots 5 and 6 Plan 5208 at Cockatoo on which is an old W.B.House (Title 4322/864389) Value £75
Personal Estate: Furniture and Effects Value £10.2 
Birth*1890 Gembrook, VIC, Australia, #B23567/1890 (par John James BELL & Annie HOWARD) - as Andrew BELL.1 
Land-Gembrook*a 10 Sep 1919 GEM--7 5.6/LP5208. Transfer from Annie Bell to Andrew Bell. The 1921 ratebook shows Andrew Bell as the owner. NAV 8. In the ratebook 1922. Andrew Bell was the owner of this property per 20 Sep 1921. Samuel Porter, Agent, Cockatoo is listed in the rate book, with rate notices going to Andrew Bell.
He was the executor of his mother's probate. At the time of her death she had not fully paid for the property as it was transferred to Arthur Porritt at the time of Mary Ann Porritt's death. Check titles.3 
Marriage*1923 Spouse: May Patrick. #M8662/1923, Andrew BELL & May PATRICK.4
 
Death*15 Jun 1932 Austin Hospital, Heidelberg, VIC, Australia, #D5930/1932 (Age 42) (par John James BELL & Annie HAYWOOD) - as Andrew BELL.5 
Death-Notice*16 Jun 1932 BELL.—On the 15th June, at Austin Hospital, Andrew, of Cockatoo, loving husband of May, loving father of Frank, Ronald, and Edward, aged 42 years.—Peace, perfect peace.6 
Land-Gembrook*a Jul 1932 GEM--7 5.6/LP5208. Transfer from Andrew Bell to May Bell. 

Electoral Rolls (Australia) and Census (UK/IRL)

DateAddressOccupation and other people at same address
1924Cockatoo Creek, VIC, AustraliaOccupation: sawmiller.7

Grave

  • C, Grave 2872, Preston Cemetery, Preston, VIC, Australia8

Newspaper-Articles

  • 12 Feb 1914: Mr A. Bell, of Cockatoo Creek has presented the Mechanics' Hall with a lamp which will be a great improvement on the kerosene ones.9
  • 1 Jul 1932: AFTER the expiration of fourteen days from the publication hereof, APPLICATION will be made to the Supreme Court of Victoria that LETTERS of ADMINISTRATION of the ESTATE of ANDREW BELL, late of Cockatoo, in Victoria, Saw Miller, deceased Intestate, may be GRANTED to May Bell, of Cockatoo, being the widow of the said deceased.10

Citations

  1. [S26] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Births) (online) "#B23567/1890 (par John James BELL & Annie HOWARD) - as Andrew BELL, Birth registered at Gembrook, Australia."
  2. [S35] Probate Records, PROV (Public Record Office Victoria), Probate and Administration Files (VPRS28) / Wills (VPRS7591)
    249/548. Andrew Bell, Residence: Cockatoo, Occupation: Sawmiller, Date Of Death: 15 Jun 1932, Date Of Grant: 21 Jul 1932
    VPRS 28/P0003, 249/548; VPRS 7591/P0002, 249/548.
  3. [S185] Property Titles ; PROV (Public Record Office Victoria), C/T 4322-389 - Andrew Bell.
  4. [S27] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Marriages) (online) "#M8662/1923, Andrew BELL & May PATRICK."
  5. [S28] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Deaths) (online) "#D5930/1932 (Age 42) (par John James BELL & Annie HAYWOOD) - as Andrew BELL, Death registered at Heidelberg, Australia."
  6. [S11] Newspaper - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic.), Thu 16 Jun 1932, p1
    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/4457741
  7. [S124] Electoral Roll for Australia, 1924.
  8. [S345] Index of monumental inscriptions/burials, www.findagrave.com "Preston General Cemetery, Bundoora, Banyule City, Victoria, Australia, Plot: C, Grave 2872, https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/211099003
    Grave of Andrew Bell -15 Jun 1932)."
  9. [S196] Newspaper - Dandenong Advertiser and Cranbourne, Berwick and Oakleigh Advocate (Vic.), Thu 12 Feb 1914, p2
    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/88355254
  10. [S16] Newspaper - The Age (Melbourne, Vic.), Fri 1 Jul 1932, p16
    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/203790413
Last Edited11 Jan 2024

Margaret Mary Bell1

F, #29893, b. 1894, d. 20 Mar 1967
Father*John James Bell1 b. 5 Dec 1848, d. 29 Oct 1925
Mother*Annie Howard1 b. 1856, d. 29 Jul 1917
Married NameLovell. 
Birth*1894 Gembrook, VIC, Australia, #B29665/1894 (par Jno Jas BELL & Annie HOWARD) - as Margt Mary BELL.1 
Marriage*1914 Spouse: Henry Lovell. #M9908/1914, Margt Mary BELL & Hy LOVELL.2
 
Widow15 Nov 1947Margaret Mary Bell became a widow upon the death of her husband Henry Lovell.3 
Death*20 Mar 1967 Melbourne, VIC, Australia, #D6055/1967 (Age 72) (par John James BELL & Annie HOWARD) - as Margaret Mary LOVELL.4 

Grave

  • EMC-I-424, Emerald Cemetery, Macclesfield, VIC, Australia5

Citations

  1. [S26] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Births) (online) "#B29665/1894 (par Jno Jas BELL & Annie HOWARD) - as Margt Mary BELL, Birth registered at Gembrook, Australia."
  2. [S27] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Marriages) (online) "#M9908/1914, Margt Mary BELL & Hy LOVELL."
  3. [S28] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Deaths) (online) "#D22551/1947 (Age 59) (par Henry LOVELL & Louisa WILLIAMS) - as Harry LOVELL, born Stanley, Tasmania. Death registered at Ferntree Gully Upper, Australia."
  4. [S28] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Deaths) (online) "#D6055/1967 (Age 72) (par John James BELL & Annie HOWARD) - as Margaret Mary LOVELL, born Cockatoo. Death registered at Melbourne, Australia."
  5. [S38] Index of burials in the cemetery of Emerald Cemetery, EMC-I-424
    Margaret Mary Lovell, Date of Death: 20 Mar 1967, Service Date: 22 Mar 1967, Age: 72 Years
    Henry Lovell, Date of Death: 15 Nov 1947, Service Date: 17 Nov 1947, Age: 60 Years
    List, Age: Unknown    ,.
Last Edited11 Jan 2024

Bertha May List1

F, #29901, b. 1895, d. 10 Oct 1966
Father*Charles Ward List b. Mar 1862, d. 22 Jul 1949
Mother*Adelaide Emma Stone b. 1867, d. 14 Mar 1919
Married NameDerrick.2 
Birth*1895 Richmond, VIC, Australia, #B15604/1895 (par Chas Ward LIST & Adelaide Emma STONE) - as Bertha May LIST.1 
Note*b Sep 1915 Hugh Howard Bell. Hugh and Bertha were in a relationship at the time of his death. 
Marriage*1920 Spouse: Percival Eric Nathan Derrick. VIC, Australia, #M13147/1920, Bertha May LIST & Percy Eri Nathan DERRICK.2
 
Note1922 Birth of son: #B7306/1922 (par Percival Eric Nathan DERRICK & Bertha May LIST) - as Laurence Jno DERRICK, Birth registered at Prahran, Vic, Australia.3 
NoteNov 1927 Death of son: #D2409/1928 (Age 5) (par Percival Eric Nathan DERRICK & Bertha May LIST) - as Laurence John DERRICK, Death registered at Melbourne East, Australia.4 
Death*10 Oct 1966 Melbourne, VIC, Australia, #D22584/1966 (Age 71) (par Charles Ward LIST & Adelaide Emma STONE) - as Bertha May DERRICK.5 
Death-Notice*11 Oct 1966 DERRICK — On October 10, Bertha May, of 4 Moonya Road, Glen Iris, dearly loved wife of Percival, loved mother of Phyllis (Mrs. Cleary), and Rhonda (Mrs Hirst), fond mother-in-law of Tom and Keith and loved by her grandchildren.6 

Electoral Rolls (Australia) and Census (UK/IRL)

DateAddressOccupation and other people at same address
19213 Perth Street, Prahran, VIC, AustraliaOccupation: home duties. With Percival Eric Nathan Derrick.7
bt 1924 - 192756 Henry Street, Prahran, VIC, AustraliaOccupation: home duties. With Percival Eric Nathan Derrick.8,9,10
192826 Alfred Street, Prahran, VIC, AustraliaOccupation: home duties. With Percival Eric Nathan Derrick.11
bt 1931 - 193751 Alfred Street, Prahran, VIC, AustraliaOccupation: home duties. With Percival Eric Nathan Derrick.12,13,14
19544 Moonya Road, Glen Iris, VIC, AustraliaOccupation: home duties. With Rhonda Mabel, process worker. With Percival Eric Nathan Derrick.15

Newspaper-Articles

  • 14 Nov 1927: DERRICK.—The Friends of Mr. and Mrs. PERCIVAL DERRICK are informed that the remains of their dearly loved only son, Laurence John, will be interred in the Burwood Cemetery.
    The funeral will leave their residence, 2 Latrobe street, Windsor, THIS DAY (Monday, 14th November, at 11 a.m.
    DRAYTON and GARSON, Undertakers, 190 High street, Windsor; and Malvern. Tels. Win. 370 and U1228.16
  • 24 Sep 1946: GEORGE JOHN DERRICK. Late of 3 Highgate Road, Ashburton, in Victoria. Retired Milk Vendor, Deceased.-After fourteen clear days Percival Eric Nathan Derrick, of 8 Frederick street, Windsor, in Victoria, foreman bread carter, the executor appointed by deceased's will, dated 2nd February, 1944, and Codicil, dated 9th February, 1944, will APPLY to the Supreme Court of Victoria for a grant of PROBATE of the said WILL and Codicil.
    HEDDERWICK, FOOKES, & ALSTON, 103 William street, Melbourne, solicitors for the executors.17

Citations

  1. [S26] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Births) (online) "#B15604/1895 (par Chas Ward LIST & Adelaide Emma STONE) - as Bertha May LIST, Birth registered at Rmond, Australia."
  2. [S27] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Marriages) (online) "#M13147/1920, Bertha May LIST & Percy Eri Nathan DERRICK."
  3. [S26] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Births) (online) "#B7306/1922 (par Percival Eric Nathan DERRICK & Bertha May LIST) - as Laurence Jno DERRICK, Birth registered at Prahran, Vic, Australia."
  4. [S28] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Deaths) (online) "Death of son: #D2409/1928 (Age 5) (par Percival Eric Nathan DERRICK & Bertha May LIST) - as Laurence John DERRICK, Death registered at Melbourne East, Australia."
  5. [S28] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Deaths) (online) "#D22584/1966 (Age 71) (par Charles Ward LIST & Adelaide Emma STONE) - as Bertha May DERRICK, born Richmond. Death registered at Melbourne, Australia."
  6. [S16] Newspaper - The Age (Melbourne, Vic.), 11 Oct 1966, p20.
  7. [S121] Electoral Roll for Australia, 1921.
  8. [S124] Electoral Roll for Australia, 1924.
  9. [S126] Electoral Roll for Australia, 1926.
  10. [S127] Electoral Roll for Australia, 1927.
  11. [S128] Electoral Roll for Australia, 1928.
  12. [S131] Electoral Roll for Australia, 1931.
  13. [S136] Electoral Roll for Australia, 1936.
  14. [S137] Electoral Roll for Australia, 1937.
  15. [S154] Electoral Roll for Australia, 1954.
  16. [S11] Newspaper - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic.), Mon 14 Nov 1927, p1
    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/3891206
  17. [S11] Newspaper - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic.), Tue 24 Sep 1946, p16
    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/22329956
Last Edited11 Jan 2024

Charles Ward List

M, #29902, b. Mar 1862, d. 22 Jul 1949
Note*Sep 1855 Parents' marriage: Marriage Sep 1855 (Hoxne) 4a 697. Charles LIST & Lydia WARD.1 
Birth*Mar 1862 Hoxne, Suffolk, England, Mar Q 1862 (Hoxne) 04a 518. Mother's maiden surname: Warn. As Charles List.2 
Marriage*1890 Spouse: Adelaide Emma Stone. Brighton, VIC, Australia, #M3969/1890, Chas Ward LIST & Adelaide Emma STONE.3
 
Land-Gembrook*20 Jan 1908 GEM--63. Transfer from James Morey to Charles Ward List. 63a 3r 0p.4 
Land-Gembrook20 Jan 1908 GEM--63A. Transfer from James Morey to Charles Ward List. 17a 1r 25p.5 
Widower14 Mar 1919He became a widower upon the death of his wife Adelaide Emma Stone.6 
Land-Gembrook*30 Jul 1923 GEM--63A. Transfer from Charles Ward List to Thomas Henry Nicolls Ethel Nicolls. 17a 1r 25p.7 
Death*22 Jul 1949 25 Izett-street, Prahran, VIC, Australia, #D8425/1949 (Age 89) (par Charles LIST & Lydia WARD) - as Charles Ward LIST.8 
Death-Notice23 Jul 1949 LIST.—On July 22, at 25 Izett-street, Prahran, Charles Ward, beloved husband of the late Adelaide Emma, loved father of Wilfred, Bertha, Ada and Alma, aged 89 years. At rest.9 
Death-Notice*23 Jul 1949 LIST. — The Funeral of the late Mr. CHARLES WARD LIST will leave our chapel, 1217 High-street, Malvern, on MONDAY, after a service commencing at 9.30 a.m., for the Spring Vale Crematorium.
DRAYTON and GARSON. U3228.10 

Electoral Rolls (Australia) and Census (UK/IRL)

DateAddressOccupation and other people at same address
2 Apr 1871Charles LIST - Ag Lab, Fincal's Street, Worlingworth, Suffolk, EnglandAge 9 - Scholar (born Worlingworth)11
191435 Metropolitan Avenue, Richmond, VIC, AustraliaOccupation: railway employee. With Adelaide Emma List. With Wilfred Charles List.

Family

 Adelaide Emma Stone b. 1867, d. 14 Mar 1919
Children 1.Wilfred Charles List13 b. 27 Jun 1891, d. 15 Jul 1967
 2.Norman Alfred List14 b. 1893, d. 1924
 3.Bertha May List b. 1895, d. 10 Oct 1966
 4.Florence Ada List15 b. 1896, d. 13 Jul 1958
 5.Alma Lydia List16 b. 1907, d. 10 Nov 2003

Newspaper-Articles

  • 1 Mar 1918: Fern Tree Gully Shire Council. Correspondence: From C. W. List, offering his property of eight acres at Cockatoo to the soldiers' settlement board — Emerald riding members to report as to suitability and terms.12

Citations

  1. [S9] Free BMD. Index. Online @ https://www.freebmd.org.uk/ "Parents' marriage: Marriage Sep 1855 (Hoxne) 4a 697. Charles LIST & Lydia WARD."
  2. [S332] UK - General Register Office Indexes "Mar Q 1862 (Hoxne) 04a 518. Mother's maiden surname: Warn. As Charles List."
  3. [S27] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Marriages) (online) "#M3969/1890, Chas Ward LIST & Adelaide Emma STONE."
  4. [S185] Property Titles ; PROV (Public Record Office Victoria), C/T 1275-958 - Charles Ward List of No 35 Metropolitan Street Richmond Farmer.
  5. [S185] Property Titles ; PROV (Public Record Office Victoria), C/T 2067-207 - Charles Ward List of No 35 Metropolitan Street Richmond Farmer.
  6. [S28] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Deaths) (online) "#D3691/1919 (Age 52) (par Peter Hurlstone STONE & Eliza Jane DAVIES) - as Adelaide Emma LIST, Death registered at Rmond, Australia."
  7. [S185] Property Titles ; PROV (Public Record Office Victoria), C/T 4732-358 -.
  8. [S28] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Deaths) (online) "#D8425/1949 (Age 89) (par Charles LIST & Lydia WARD) - as Charles Ward LIST, born Suffolk, England. Death registered at Prahran, Australia."
  9. [S16] Newspaper - The Age (Melbourne, Vic.), Sat 23 Jul 1949, p2
    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/189455676
  10. [S16] Newspaper - The Age (Melbourne, Vic.), Sat 23 Jul 1949, p11
    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/189455731
  11. [S83] UK census - viewed on Ancestry "1871 England Census. RG10/1741/97/16
    Enumerated at Worlingworth, Suffolk.
    Household Members: Charles List, 41, Head, Lydia List, 38, Wife, Harry List, 13, Son, Charles List."
  12. [S14] Newspaper - Camberwell and Hawthorn Advertiser (Vic.), Fri 1 Mar 1918, p2
    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/153608823
  13. [S26] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Births) (online) "#B27071/1891 (par Chas Ward LIST & Adelaide Emma STONE) - as Wilfred Chas LIST, Birth registered at Richmond, Australia."
  14. [S26] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Births) (online) "#B16432/1893 (par Charles Ward LIST & Adelaide Em STONE) - as Norman Alfred LIST, Birth registered at Rich, Australia."
  15. [S26] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Births) (online) "#B30552/1896 (par Chas Ward LIST & Adelaide Emma STONE) - as Flor Ada LIST, Birth registered at Richmond, Australia."
  16. [S26] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Births) (online) "#B5740/1907 (par Chas Ward LIST & Adelaide Emma STONE) - as Alma Lydia LIST, Birth registered at Richmond, Vic, Australia."
Last Edited18 Jan 2024

Adelaide Emma Stone

F, #29903, b. 1867, d. 14 Mar 1919
Probate (Will)* 163/970. Adelaide E List, Residence: Cockatoo, Occupation: Married, Date Of Death: 11 Mar 1919, Date Of Grant: 26 May 1919 - does not have any property in Cockatoo at the time of her death.1 
Married NameList. 
Birth*1867 Brighton, VIC, Australia, #B20363/1867 (par Peter Hurl STONE & Eliza Jane DAVIS) - as Adelaide Emma STONE.2 
Marriage*1890 Spouse: Charles Ward List. Brighton, VIC, Australia, #M3969/1890, Chas Ward LIST & Adelaide Emma STONE.3
 
Death*14 Mar 1919 Richmond, VIC, Australia, #D3691/1919 (Age 52) (par Peter Hurlstone STONE & Eliza Jane DAVIES) - as Adelaide Emma LIST.4 
Death-Notice*15 Mar 1919 LIST.—On the 14th March, at 21 Charles street, Richmond, Adelaide, beloved wife of Charles List, loving mother of Wilfred, Norman, Bertha, Ada, and Alma. Late of Cockatoo.5 

Electoral Rolls (Australia) and Census (UK/IRL)

DateAddressOccupation and other people at same address
191435 Metropolitan Avenue, Richmond, VIC, AustraliaOccupation: home duties. With Charles Ward List. With Wilfred Charles List.
1918Cockatoo, VIC, AustraliaOccupation: home duties.6

Family

 Charles Ward List b. Mar 1862, d. 22 Jul 1949
Children 1.Wilfred Charles List10 b. 27 Jun 1891, d. 15 Jul 1967
 2.Norman Alfred List11 b. 1893, d. 1924
 3.Bertha May List b. 1895, d. 10 Oct 1966
 4.Florence Ada List12 b. 1896, d. 13 Jul 1958
 5.Alma Lydia List13 b. 1907, d. 10 Nov 2003

Newspaper-Articles

  • 15 Jan 1916: COCKATOO. Devon Farm. Accommodation for visitors, fishing, mineral springs, fern gullies. A. List.
    COCKATOO. To let, furnished 3-roomed Cottage, fishing, mineral springs. A. List.7
  • 21 Oct 1916: Fern Tree Gully Shire Council. Correspondence: From A. List, asking permission to erect new bridge on Cockatoo Creek. — Granted, on motion of Crs. Butcher and Keagle.8
  • 21 Oct 1916: COCKATOO, Devon Farm.—Accommodation for visitors, milk and cream, mineral springs, gullies. Mrs. List.9

Citations

  1. [S35] Probate Records, PROV (Public Record Office Victoria), Probate and Administration Files (VPRS28) / Wills (VPRS7591)
    163/970. Adelaide E List, Residence: Cockatoo, Occupation: Married, Date Of Death: 11 Mar 1919, Date Of Grant: 26 May 1919
    VPRS 7591/P0002, 163/970; VPRS 7591/P0002, 163/970.
  2. [S26] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Births) (online) "#B20363/1867 (par Peter Hurl STONE & Eliza Jane DAVIS) - as Adelaide Emma STONE, Birth registered at Brighton, Australia."
  3. [S27] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Marriages) (online) "#M3969/1890, Chas Ward LIST & Adelaide Emma STONE."
  4. [S28] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Deaths) (online) "#D3691/1919 (Age 52) (par Peter Hurlstone STONE & Eliza Jane DAVIES) - as Adelaide Emma LIST, Death registered at Rmond, Australia."
  5. [S11] Newspaper - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic.), Sat 15 Mar 1919, p11
    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/1445412
  6. [S118] Electoral Roll for Australia, 1918.
  7. [S16] Newspaper - The Age (Melbourne, Vic.), Sat 15 Jan 1916, p15
    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/155123286
  8. [S14] Newspaper - Camberwell and Hawthorn Advertiser (Vic.), Sat 21 Oct 1916, p2
    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/153613319
  9. [S16] Newspaper - The Age (Melbourne, Vic.), Sat 21 Oct 1916, p15
    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/155069029
  10. [S26] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Births) (online) "#B27071/1891 (par Chas Ward LIST & Adelaide Emma STONE) - as Wilfred Chas LIST, Birth registered at Richmond, Australia."
  11. [S26] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Births) (online) "#B16432/1893 (par Charles Ward LIST & Adelaide Em STONE) - as Norman Alfred LIST, Birth registered at Rich, Australia."
  12. [S26] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Births) (online) "#B30552/1896 (par Chas Ward LIST & Adelaide Emma STONE) - as Flor Ada LIST, Birth registered at Richmond, Australia."
  13. [S26] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Births) (online) "#B5740/1907 (par Chas Ward LIST & Adelaide Emma STONE) - as Alma Lydia LIST, Birth registered at Richmond, Vic, Australia."
Last Edited18 Jan 2024

Wilfred Charles List1

M, #29904, b. 27 Jun 1891, d. 15 Jul 1967
Father*Charles Ward List1 b. Mar 1862, d. 22 Jul 1949
Mother*Adelaide Emma Stone1 b. 1867, d. 14 Mar 1919
Birth*27 Jun 1891 Richmond, VIC, Australia, #B27071/1891 (par Chas Ward LIST & Adelaide Emma STONE) - as Wilfred Chas LIST.1,2 
Marriage*9 Mar 1918 Spouse: Agnes Edith Pinchen. South Melbourne, VIC, Australia, #M1147/1918, Wilfred Charles LIST & Agnes Edith PINCHEN.3
 
Marriage-Notice*13 Apr 1918 LIST—PINCHEN.—On the 9th March, at the Presbyterian Church, South Melbourne, by the Rev. McCarlie, Wilfred, eldest son of Mr. and Mrs. C. W. List, Cockatoo, to Agnes, second daughter Mr. and Mrs. F.W. Pinchen, South Melbourne.4 
Widower1964Wilfred Charles List became a widower upon the death of his wife Agnes Edith Pinchen.5 
Death*15 Jul 1967 Austin Hospital, Heidelberg, VIC, Australia, #D16095/1967 (Age 75) (par Charles Ward LIST & Adelaide STONE) - as Wilfred Charles LIST.6,7 
Death-Notice*17 Jul 1967 LIST.—On July 15th, at Austin Hospital, Wilfred Charles, of Mine Road, Cottles Bridge, dearly beloved husband of Agnes, loving father of Florence (Mrs King), loved father-in-law of Ross, beloved pa of Heather, Alan and Sandra, and loved brother of Alma (Mrs Moore). Aged 75 years.
Mum and Dad reunited.
LIST.—The Funeral of the late Mr. WILFRED CHARLES LIST, of Mine Road, Cottles Bridge, will leave W. G. Apps & Sons funeral home, 174 Burgundy Street, Heidelberg, TODAY (MONDAY) after a service commencing at 3 p.m., and will arrive at the Melbourne General Cemetery, Fawkner, at 3.30 p.m.
W. G. APPS & SONS PTY. LTD.8 

Electoral Rolls (Australia) and Census (UK/IRL)

DateAddressOccupation and other people at same address
191435 Metropolitan Avenue, Richmond, VIC, AustraliaOccupation: presser. With Charles Ward List and Adelaide Emma List.

Newspaper-Articles

  • 22 Mar 1919: LIST (nee Aggie Pinchen) on the 19th March, at Nurse Pinchett's, 446 Park-street, South Melbourne, the wife of Wilfred List, Fairfield Park - a daughter (Florence Victoria). Both doing well.9
  • 2 Feb 1924: MYSTERY OF THE DANDENONGS
    The Story of the Lists
    FAMILY WITH A TRAGIC HISTORY
    To the student of human nature it must be apparent that the subject of engrossing interest in the terrible tragedy of the Melbourne Botanic Gardens is not the strategy by which Norman List stalked and shot his victims, but the mental history of the man and of his family.
    It has been stated that List was involved a few years, ago in a shooting episode at Cockatoo, a township in the Dandenong Ranges, which, viewed in the light of this Gardens tragedy, takes a sinister aspect.
    The story was that List, while out rabbit shooting with a companion named Hugh Bell, accidentally shot him while going through a fence.
    The facts of the case as ascertained locally are of greater significance. It was not Norman List who figured in this incident, but his younger brother, Wilfred.
    WILFRED, at the time of this occurrence, in Sept., 1915, was 18 years old. He was like his brother, Norman, then 22, of a wild and romantic disposition. His favourite game was playing at Indians among the tree ferns, and he habitually carried a dagger, with the apparent desire of impressing his comrades with his prowess. The family were divided by a quarrel which had occurred in 1912 between the father and mother. The father, it is said, had bought a block of 80 acres at Cockatoo in order to remove bis growing sons from the temptations of the city, and when the series of family quarrels culminated in a breach the mother removed to Cockatoo and lived with her children, while List remained in town paying them occasional week-end visits.
    Remarkable Happening
    The mother, who is now dead, was reputed to be eccentric. The altercations of her two sons may be traceable to her.
    The episode of the death of Bell was remarkable. Bell, who was 29 years old, was living with the Lists about two miles from his own home. His people were sawmillers. The Lists' were growing potatoes and cherry fruits and conducting a boarding house. Apparently they were people who did a little of everything, but never made a success of anything.
    Bell was engaged to Bertha List, the eldest daughter, and was working the place on shares with Wilfred. Wilfred, it is said, disliked the idea of Bell marrying his sister.
    The tragedy happened in that afternoon of Sept. 22. List and Bell had been weeding strawberries at the corner paddock, about a mile from the house, and late in the afternoon they set out to return home through the timbered gully, known as Pennyroyal Avenue. Bell had a gun, which he habitually carried for shooting rabbits.
    The news was broken to the List family by Wilfred, who returned home with the information that Hugh Bell had been shot. Members of the family went to the spot and carried the body home, where they washed and laid it out and then informed the police. Constable Brooker, of Emerald, four miles away, went over and questioned Wilfred List, who, at first said that Bell was chasing a rabbit down the hill when he tripped and the gun went off. The constable pointed out that Bell had been shot in the back of the head, and that this could not happen in the way he had stated, whereupon List altered his story and said that he (List) was carrying the gun and had tripped, owing to one of his boot soles becoming loose, causing the gun to be discharged as he stumbled forward. He said that he saw Bell fall and thought that he was pretending to be shot, and when he did not get up he went to him and found that he was dead.
    Interesting Parallel
    The circumstances were reported to a local Justice, who held an inquiry and found that death was accidental.
    The lad at the inquiry gave the second explanation, which was accepted, as it was the only evidence that could be submitted.
    On the point, the case of the Ringwood murder, committed by Edward Landells many years ago, is an interesting parallel. Landells had taken a companion into tho scrub, shot him, and left the body lying near a log. The body was identified through the accidental discovery of a letter in the lining of the coat, and Landells was interviewed by detectives. They really knew nothing of his movements; but, leading him to assume that he and his victim had been traced to Ringwood on the day of the tragedy, they put a hypothetical case to him that the man had been shot accidentally by Landells, who had then been seized with panic at the thought of possibly being charged with murder. Landells, who was unaware that the detectives had no evidence against him, accepted this theory, and described the occurrence from that standpoint.
    Left the District When he had done so he was confronted with the fact that his victim was shot from behind and above in such a position as could not possibly fit his explanation. The discrepancy sent him to the gallows.
    List exhibited remarkable unconcern at the death of Bell. He left the district about three months afterwards and it was rumoured that he went to South America. His elder brother, who had travelled widely in India and elsewhere, was in Mexico at the time.
    In view of this episode the List case becomes still more a problem for the criminal alienist. The List family after the tragedy behaved most strangely to the Bells, refusing to recognise them, and the outcome of the new feud that arose was a lawsuit. In which the Bell family obtained a verdict against the Lists for the recovery of the dead man's property. Hugh Howard Bell10

Citations

  1. [S26] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Births) (online) "#B27071/1891 (par Chas Ward LIST & Adelaide Emma STONE) - as Wilfred Chas LIST, Birth registered at Richmond, Australia."
  2. [S65] Ancestry - various indices, Wilfred Charles List, Birth Date: 27 Jun 1891, Birth Place: Burnley, Victoria, Service Number: V372538, Enlistment Place: Westgarth, Victoria, Next of Kin: Agnes, Series Description: B884: Army Citizen Military Forces.
  3. [S27] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Marriages) (online) "#M1147/1918, Wilfred Charles LIST & Agnes Edith PINCHEN."
  4. [S16] Newspaper - The Age (Melbourne, Vic.), Sat 13 Apr 1918, p7
    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/155092505
  5. [S28] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Deaths) (online) "#D27085/1964 (Age 70) (par Frederick PINCHEN & Florence ALLEN) - as Agnes Edith LIST, born Melbourne. Death registered at Heidelberg, Australia."
  6. [S28] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Deaths) (online) "#D16095/1967 (Age 75) (par Charles Ward LIST & Adelaide STONE) - as Wilfred Charles LIST, born Melbourne. Death registered at Heidelberg, Australia."
  7. [S80] Ancestry - Family Tree, Ancestry Tree Name: Round family Jungle, Tree ID: 60759708
    Person viewed: Wilfred Charles List, Birth Date: 27 Jun 1891, Richmond, Victoria, Australia, Death Date: 15 Jul 1967, at Austin Hospital, late of Cottles Bridge, Victoria, Australia.
  8. [S16] Newspaper - The Age (Melbourne, Vic.), 17 Jul 1967, p13.
  9. [S16] Newspaper - The Age (Melbourne, Vic.), Sat 22 Mar 1919, p7
    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/155216986
  10. [S14] Newspaper - Smith's Weekly (Sydney, NSW), Sat 2 Feb 1924, p2
    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/234427489
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Norman Alfred List1

M, #29905, b. 1893, d. 1924
Father*Charles Ward List1 b. Mar 1862, d. 22 Jul 1949
Mother*Adelaide Emma Stone1 b. 1867, d. 14 Mar 1919
Birth*1893 Richmond, VIC, Australia, #B16432/1893 (par Charles Ward LIST & Adelaide Em STONE) - as Norman Alfred LIST.1 
Death*1924 Melbourne East, VIC, Australia, #D2550/1924 (Age 31) (par Charles Ward LIST & Adelaide Emma STONE) - as Norman Alfred LIST.2 

Newspaper-Articles

  • 4 Feb 1924: LIST'S FORMER HOME IN THE BUSH. — This photograph of the house formerly occupied by the List family at Cockatoo, is interesting as showing where the dead fugitive obtained his early knowledge of bush life.3
  • 9 Feb 1924: BOYHOOD HOME OF GARDENS MURDERER
    This photograph shows the house at Cockatoo (Vic.) where Norman List, who, after shooting half a dozen people in the Melbourne Botanic Gardens, was found dead in the bush, with arteries severed.4

Citations

  1. [S26] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Births) (online) "#B16432/1893 (par Charles Ward LIST & Adelaide Em STONE) - as Norman Alfred LIST, Birth registered at Rich, Australia."
  2. [S28] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Deaths) (online) "#D2550/1924 (Age 31) (par Charles Ward LIST & Adelaide Emma STONE) - as Norman Alfred LIST, Death registered at Melbourne East, Australia."
  3. [S14] Newspaper - The Herald (Melbourne, Vic.), Mon 4 Feb 1924, p18
    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/243759126
  4. [S14] Newspaper - The Mail (Adelaide, SA), Sat 9 Feb 1924, p1
    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/63857638
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Florence Ada List1

F, #29906, b. 1896, d. 13 Jul 1958
Father*Charles Ward List1 b. Mar 1862, d. 22 Jul 1949
Mother*Adelaide Emma Stone1 b. 1867, d. 14 Mar 1919
Married NameGross.2 
Birth*1896 Richmond, VIC, Australia, #B30552/1896 (par Chas Ward LIST & Adelaide Emma STONE) - as Flor Ada LIST.1 
Marriage*1925 Spouse: Ernest John Henry Gross. VIC, Australia, #M6610/1925, Florence Ada LIST & Ernt Jno Henry GROSS (also indexed as Ernt Jno Henry GROSE.)3
 
Widow1955Florence Ada List became a widow upon the death of her husband Ernest John Henry Gross.4 
Note*30 Jun 1955 #D7223/1955 (Age 54) (par Ernest John Henry GROSS & Ida HAUBOE) - as Ernest John Henry GROSS.4 
Death*13 Jul 1958 Windsor, NSW, Australia, #D21773/1958 (par Charles Ward & Emma) - as Florence Ada GROSS.5 
Death-Notice*15 Jul 1958 GROSS, Florence Ada. — On July 13, loved sister of Wilfred, Bertha, Alma, at Windsor Hospital, New South Wales. In God's care.6 

Electoral Rolls (Australia) and Census (UK/IRL)

DateAddressOccupation and other people at same address
bt 1936 - 195418 Keeron Street, Caulfield, VIC, AustraliaOccupation: home duties. With Ernest John Henry Gross, tram employee.7,8

Grave

  • Pittosporum, Tree 101, Springvale Botanical Cemetery, Clayton, VIC, Australia9,10

Newspaper-Articles

  • 1 Jul 1955: GROSS. — On June 30, at Alfred Hospital, Harry, loving husband of Ada, loved father of Alva, Ronald, and Fay, fond grandfather of Robert. -Sadly missed.
    GROSS. — The Funeral of the late ERNEST JOHN HENRY GROSS will leave our parlors, corner Glenhuntly and Hawthorn roads, Caulfield. THIS DAY (Friday, July 1), after a service commencing at 11.15 a.m., for the Spring Vale Crematorium.
    JOHN (ROY V.) ALLISON, LF1816.11

Citations

  1. [S26] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Births) (online) "#B30552/1896 (par Chas Ward LIST & Adelaide Emma STONE) - as Flor Ada LIST, Birth registered at Richmond, Australia."
  2. [S27] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Marriages) (online) "#M6610/1925, Florence Ada LIST & Ernt Jno Henry GROSS (also indexed as Ernt Jno Henry GROSE)."
  3. [S27] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Marriages) (online) "#M6610/1925, Flor Ada LIST & Ernt Jno Henry GROSS
    #M6610/1925, Ernt Jno Henry GROSE & Florence Ada LIST."
  4. [S28] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Deaths) (online) "#D7223/1955 (Age 54) (par Ernest John Henry GROSS & Ida HAUBOE) - as Ernest John Henry GROSS, born Hamburg, Germany. Death registered at Melbourne, Australia."
  5. [S7] Registry of NSW Births Deaths and Marriages "#D21773/1958 (par Charles Ward & Emma) - as Florence Ada GROSS. Death registered at Windsor."
  6. [S16] Newspaper - The Age (Melbourne, Vic.), 15 Jul 1958, p13.
  7. [S136] Electoral Roll for Australia, 1936.
  8. [S154] Electoral Roll for Australia, 1954 "with Fay Alma Gross operator, Ronald John Gross nurseryman."
  9. [S345] Index of monumental inscriptions/burials, www.findagrave.com "Springvale Botanical Cemetery, Springvale, Greater Dandenong City, Victoria, Australia, Plot: Pittosporum, Tree 101, https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/244544004
    Grave of Florence Ada Gross -13 Jul 1958)."
  10. [S47] Index of burials in the cemetery of Springvale Botanical Cemetery.
    Cremated at Springvale Botanical Cemetery, Pittosporum, Cemetery area: Pittosporum
    Ernest John Henry Gross. Date of service: 1 Jul 1955
    Cremated at Springvale Botanical Cemetery, Pittosporum, Cemetery area: Pittosporum
    Florence Ada Gross. Date of death: 13 Jul 1958 Date of service: 15 Jul 1958.
  11. [S11] Newspaper - The Argus (Melbourne, Vic.), Fri 1 Jul 1955, p16
    https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/71665041
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Alma Lydia List1

F, #29907, b. 1907, d. 10 Nov 2003
Father*Charles Ward List1 b. Mar 1862, d. 22 Jul 1949
Mother*Adelaide Emma Stone1 b. 1867, d. 14 Mar 1919
Probate (Will)* 1231752. Alma Lydia Moore. Wheelers Hill. Widow, Date Of Death: 10 Nov 2003, Date Of Grant: 20 Feb 2004.2 
Married NameMoore.3 
Married NameBarnes.4 
Birth*1907 Richmond, VIC, Australia, #B5740/1907 (par Chas Ward LIST & Adelaide Emma STONE) - as Alma Lydia LIST.1 
Marriage*13 May 1927 Spouse: William Ernest Barnes. Methodist Parsonage, St Kilda, VIC, Australia, #M6244/1927, Alma Lydia LIST & Wm Ernt BARNES.4
 
Divorce*Feb 1933Alma Lydia List and William Ernest Barnes were divorced in Feb 1933 1933/42 Barnes v Barnes: Divorce. Petitioner Alma Lydia Barnes, Respondent William Ernest Barnes.5 
Marriage1937 Spouse: Charles Samuel Moore. #M3920/1937, Alma Lydia BARNES & Chas Saml MOORE.3
 
Death*10 Nov 2003 

Electoral Rolls (Australia) and Census (UK/IRL)

DateAddressOccupation and other people at same address
bt 1937 - 196825 Izett Street, Prahran, VIC, AustraliaOccupation: home duties (as Alma Lydia MOORE). With Charles Samuel MOORE, chemist.6,7
19805/14 York Road, Glen Iris, VIC, AustraliaOccupation: home duties (as Alma Lydia MOORE).8

Citations

  1. [S26] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Births) (online) "#B5740/1907 (par Chas Ward LIST & Adelaide Emma STONE) - as Alma Lydia LIST, Birth registered at Richmond, Vic, Australia."
  2. [S35] Probate Records, PROV (Public Record Office Victoria), Probate and Administration Files (VPRS28) / Wills (VPRS7591)
    1231752. Alma Lydia Moore. Wheelers Hill. Widow, Date Of Death: 10 Nov 2003, Date Of Grant: 20 Feb 2004
    VPRS 28/P0034, 1231752.
  3. [S27] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Marriages) (online) "#M3920/1937, Alma Lydia BARNES & Chas Saml MOORE."
  4. [S27] Victorian Government. BDM Index Victoria (Marriages) (online) "#M6244/1927, Alma Lydia LIST & Wm Ernt BARNES."
  5. [S34] PROV (Public Record Office Victoria), Divorce Case Files, Melbourne (VPRS283)
    1933/42 Barnes v Barnes: Divorce. Petitioner Alma Lydia Barnes, Respondent William Ernest Barnes, VPRS 283/P0002, 1933/42
    IN THE SUPREME COURT OF VICTORIA
    1933 No 42
    DIVORCE AND MATRIMONIAL CASES JURISDICTION
    Between ALMA LYDIA BARNES Petitioner -and- WILLIAM ERNEST BARNES
    Respondent
    I, ALMA LYDIA BARNES of 51 Alfred Street Prahran in the State of Victoria Married Woman make oath and say :-
    1. THAT I am the abovenamed Petitioner.
    2. THAT on the 13th day of May 1927 I was lawfully married to William Ernest Barnes the abovenamed Respondent at the St.Kilda Methodist Parsonage by the Reverend A .Hambly according to the rites of the Methodist Church.
    3. That the said Respondent has since the celebration of the said marriage been guilty of a repeated act of adultery.
    4. THAT I am of the age of twenty six years and was born at Richmond in the State of Victoria. The Respondent is of the age of thirty one years or thereabouts, and was born at West Melbourne in the State of Victoria. Both the Respondent and I are domiciled in the State of Victoria.
    5. THAT before the said marriage I was a spinster and earned my livelihood as a tailoress. Since the Respondent and I finally separated as hereinafter stated I have lived with my sister and been supported by the rent accruing from a property at Edwards Street Elsternwick. Prior to the said marriage the Respondent was a bachelor, and earned his livelihood as a gardener, and since the said marriage he has carried on the same occupation, so far as I am aware.
    6. THAT there was one child of the said marriage, Kenneth William Barnes, a male, who was born on the 29th day of September 1930 at Richmond in a private hospital, and who is living with me.
    7. THAT after our said marriage the Respondent and I continued to live at our respective homes, and kept our marriage a secret.
    I went on working as a tailoreas and Respondent continued in his employment as a gardener. My family were opposed to the marriage, as they considered that the Respondent used to drink too much, and that he had not a sufficiently good position on which to marry.
    Ultimately my family discovered that I was married, because my married name appeared on the Electoral Rolls. In October 1928 I purchased a house at Edwards Street Elsternwick, where the Respondent and I commenced to reside. At this time I had saved about £200. My father contributed £200, and a mortgage over the house was given to the State Savings Bank. The Respondent contributed nothing towards the purchase of the house. All our furniture was hired under Hire Purchase Agreement. We had not been living together long before I discovered that my husband drank to excess, and he would often come home in a drunken condition. The Respondent was at this time earning 14/- per day or thereabouts in his employment as a gardener, but he used most of the money to buy drink and gamble at the races, and we got into debt. So bad was the position that my father had to give me money to buy clothes. On some weeks the Respondent used to give me nothing at all for the housekeeping, and on other weeks only a few shillings, and some times a £l or £2. He refused to give me any money to pay the Bank, and we got far into arrears.
    I used to try to persuade the Respondent to stop drinking and to save his money but although he promised me that he would, he failed to do so. He then said that if he had a son he would be better, but after our child was born he did not reform in any way. At the time of my confinement the Respondent had no money to meet the expenses and I had arranged for the money to be advanced by my father, although I did not tell the Respondent. Just before the birth of the child however, Respondent won £50 in Tattersalls, and out of it he was able to pay the expenses.
    8. The Respondent continued drinking to excess, and eventually about July 1931 I told him that we could not carry on any further as we owed money all round, and continued to get more and more into debt, and suggested to him that we should let the house.
    I also told him that we could not keep the house going any longer, as our payments were far in arrears to the Bank, and that the Bank would take the house unless they received some money. Respondent then suggested that we should go into a room, which he suggested we could get at 12/6 per week. I told him that the payments on the house were only 13/6 per week, and that as he could not keep these payments up, I did not see how he could pay 12/6 per week for a room. I also told Respondent that I thought it would be better if we lived with our families until he could pull himself together, and was in a position to keep us. I then went to live with my sister Mrs. Derrick at Alfred Street Prahran, where I am now residing. At this time my father paid off the Mortgage on the house at Edward Street Elsternwick, so that I could obtain an income from it. I have since that date been receiving £1 per week rent, but out of this I have to pay the rates and taxes.
    I am also earning a few shillings a week from sewing. From July 1931 up to Christmas 1931 Respondent used to ring me up about once a fortnight, and ask me to meet him as he wanted to see the child. He also promised that if I would meet him, he would contribute something towards the support of the child, and on occasions he used to give me a few shillings to buy patent foods which were very expensive, and which I could not otherwise afford.
    On many of the occasions that I met the Respondent he was the worse for liquor. He occasionally repeated his suggestions that we should take a room together, but when I questioned him he had to admit that he was still drinking and could not afford to keep a room going. On several occasionshe suggested that we should meet at night and have sexual relations, but in the circumstances I refused to do that.
    9. From Christmas 1931 I never saw Respondent until May 1932 when I was at a dance. He also attended it in company with a girl. When he saw me he came up to me and said, "That's my girl over there, what are you going to do, make trouble?"
    I said "No." I saw Respondent at dances on several occasions after this, in company with the same girl. Later at a dance Respondent came up to me and said "Would you like to meet my girl? I had no alternative but to agree, and he brought the
    same girl over and introduced me to her as "Alma, an old friend of mine." He introduced the girl to me as "Lil". I asked Respondent different questions about her, and he told me that her name was Alexander. After this I attended at one or two dances where the Respondent and the girl Alexander were present. At about this time in June or July 1932 I met the Respondent at a dance, and he asked me to bring our child to St.Kilda, as he would like to see him on the following Saturday, if it were a nice day. I agreed and met Respondent but he was very drunk. He was argumentative and noisy, and I had to leave him, and told him that I would not see him again. At about the end of November 1932 I was informed that the Respondent and the said girl were living together somewhere in St.Kilda. I thereupon made enquiries and have ascertained that the Respondent has been living in adultery with the said girl at an apartment house in Barkly Street St. Kilda, where they have been living as man and wife from about the month of August 1932. I am informed and verily believe that they are still living as man and wife at the said address.
    10. The first time that I suspected the Respondent of any improper or adulterous intercourse was at or about the end of November 1932.
    11. I do not know the origin of the Respondent's acquaintance with the said Lily Alexander, save that I believe that he "picked her up" at a dance.
    12. Save as aforesaid there has been no separation between the Respondent and me, and no Deed of Separation has been executed by us.
    13. Sexual cohabitation between the Respondent and me finally ceased in or about July 1931 at the time when we left the said property at Edwards Street Elsternwick.
    14. I distinctly and unequivocally deny all collusion or connivance past or present direct or indirect with the Respondent or any person liable to be made Respondent.
    Sworn at Melbourne inthe State of Victoria this seventh day of February 1933.
  6. [S137] Electoral Roll for Australia, 1937.
  7. [S168] Electoral Roll for Australia, 1968.
  8. [S180] Electoral Roll for Australia, 1980.
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